From ... Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!isdnet!skynet.be!193.162.153.122.MISMATCH!news.tele.dk!129.240.148.23!uio.no!Norway.EU.net!127.0.0.1!nobody From: Erik Naggum Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: NEWS FLASH : Naggum strikes again ! ( All beware his 20 cent popgun ) Date: 10 Dec 2000 01:36:47 +0000 Organization: Naggum Software; vox: +47 800 35477; gsm: +47 93 256 360; fax: +47 93 270 868; http://naggum.no; http://naggum.net Lines: 91 Message-ID: <3185401007952765@naggum.net> References: <90tk5k$9d0$1@reader1.fr.uu.net> <9c953tkkn4b7m9bs61gcuu3b9s3iapf4jm@4ax.com> <3185391497019108@naggum.net> <87g0jxi258.fsf@forager.swarm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: oslo-nntp.eunet.no 976414622 28811 195.0.192.66 (10 Dec 2000 02:17:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@eunet.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Dec 2000 02:17:02 GMT mail-copies-to: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.lisp:4955 * Marcus G. Daniels | The idea that they are a part of some community with enforced | conformance to one guy's particular definition of intelligence strikes | many as bizarre and cult-like. Yeah, that would be really creepy. Where do you find such insanity? Oh, I'm sorry, it's your favorite fantasy about other people, whom you have made no effort whatsoever to understand beyond your own precepts, but as I keep telling those who work so hard to be outsiders by choice: You cannot understand anyone else through yourself alone. It is not my fault that you have to think in cult-like terms. It is not my problem that you feel that I'm _enforcing_ anything. (I just hate it when lunatics give me powers I don't want.) It is not for me to ponder why you have reached the bizarre conclusion that there is a particular "definition of intelligence" at work. Geez, dude, here I thought I was clear about my fight against _stupidity_, but one day you think it's _people_ I'm against, and the next it's _intelligence_ that I'm f**king _enforcing_. No wonder it's bizarre and cult-like to you! You've turned into a raving lunatic with paranoid delusions! It must be really great to have such an easy escape from reality as you do, though. I have to make do with a cat I deeply love who gets really sick and nearly dies were it not for exceptionally caring and competent veterinarians, to be taken out of _my_ daily routine and the dreary reality of two-month record rainfalls in Oslo and other random sadness like maybe Dumbya winning Florida, and that just sucks so hard. A fantasy world like yours with easy and ridiculously funny two- dimensional pop-up enemies who form bizarre and cult-like communities that you can be an outsider to is probably a lot easier than dealing with a real world with real people (and cats) and real causes behind real problems, such as your own inability to deal with what you see in preference to posting idiotic and condescending drivel about your own demented images of other people. | As for me, like many, I don't have much time for Usenet. Yes, we have all noticed and I sympathize with your inability to post your _fantastic_ ridicule all day. It could make literature, poetry, it could beat Xah Lee, if you worked all day at every snide remark instead of just a few hours. Maybe you'd even fail to miss a target. Methinks you have lost it, Marcus. You used to be able to post snide remarks with a sting. This fantasy world cum nightmare cum enforced conformance to your prejudices betrays an outsider who is _really_ far out, beyond where the truth is. I can't keep knocking your vileness and generally pathological negativity if you have really turned into a certified mental case, you know. That would be mean. Could you have somebody around you tell me you _aren't_ really just a raving lunatic with paranoid delusions about me and bizarre, cult-like communities you do not want to belong to? (Not that people feel like _belonging_, either. That would be much too _active_ a feeling. All I want from people is a desire _not_ to be or remain outsiders, because people who are outsiders feel free to destroy that which they are outside. They don't actually have to be "insiders" to remain moral and respect people and other people's time and property and such. Outsider lunacy goes with insider lunacy, of course, so people who feel outside often have to invent groups of insiders, too. It would all be much, much easier if people just dropped the feeling of "not belonging" and made a decision to respect other people as if there were a much greater community to which we _none_ were outsiders, like "humanity" or something soft and squishy like that, but we're humans, so we have to have small groups, some needing them smaller than others.) Or maybe you could just stop posting, not having that much time for Usenet and all, you know. I'd be much relieved as it would be a sign of improved mental health on your part if you could find somebody else to prove that you're alive. No more insane rants about bizarre cults, OK? Keep it within reason, Marcus. I don't want another Tom Breton with mythical Naggum Cliques and so strange ideas about optimization they need protection from the reality of his ways through kill-files. I'd prefer if you actually snapped out of whatever caused you to be such a disrespectful person to begin with, but that's just wishful thinking on my part, now, watching this last exchange of yours show that you really have not been talking about me at all this time, but some scary monster guy with powers to enforce scary definitions of intelligence. Man, this is so sad. Here I have actually been upset about your evil and never-ending snide remarks and your insidiously condescending attitude towards me, and it never was me you have been talking to, but some insane delusions completely devoid of reality. Get a grip, Marcus G. Daniels. It's _mean_ to be insane and not tell people you work so hard to hurt as you have done. Now, get lost. #:Erik -- "When you are having a bad day and it seems like everybody is trying to piss you off, remember that it takes 42 muscles to produce a frown, but only 4 muscles to work the trigger of a good sniper rifle." -- Unknown