Subject: Re: "Choose the Right Language" in "Tutorial" by Norvig and Pitman From: Erik Naggum <erik@naggum.net> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 20:48:10 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <3227633289762959@naggum.net> * Kenny Tilton | That is an odd way to say the relational model is too primitive to | express OO Huh? Are you sure you understand the relational model, and not just the various implementations of it, such as SQL? | No "interface" is going to cure RDB's incompatibility with OO, it's just | going to knock performance to its knees. This makes zero sense. | [...] if one likes OO, ODB only makes sense. And RDB looks like a | dinosaur. Actually understanding the relational model seems to require really long time and serious effort from some people, since it is both exceedingly elegant and considerably counter-intuitive. Relational algebra and calculus are somehow hard. The theory underlying object-orientation is also elegant and counter-intuitive, despite what some people who have not quite grasped it think. Obbject-orientation is mostly hype and very little understanding and the way people think syntax like object.method is both necessary and sufficient is downright depressing. /// -- In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none. In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief. Post with compassion: http://home.chello.no/~xyzzy/kitten.jpg