Subject: Re: newbie: using packages and CLOS From: Erik Naggum <erik@naggum.no> Date: 31 Aug 2002 13:16:01 +0000 Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <3239788561495055@naggum.no> * Harald Hanche-Olsen | Indeed. But how do you learn which is which? You either have a good mentor or you think about the functionality offered by the various macros and functions and realize when and where to use them. This is a long-winded process, of course. | CLOS is an extreme example - learning CLOS from the specification was a much | too daunting task for me given the amount of time I can make available to | such tasks. Now that I finally got around to reading Sonja Keene's book I | can probably go back and learn the rest from the hyperspec as I need to, but | you need that kind of kickstart to get going. (This from a guy who once | learned Simula from reading the Common Base - but my aging brain is no | longer up to such feats.) That pretty much mimicks my development with both Simula and CLOS. I am not sure about the Common Base, but I got hold of a brief report on the language from Norsk Regnecentral and aced the Simula course at the U of Oslo. CLOS was basically impenetrable before Keene, even with the aid of the 3rd edition of Winston & Horn. -- Erik Naggum, Oslo, Norway Act from reason, and failure makes you rethink and study harder. Act from faith, and failure makes you blame someone and push harder.