Rainer Joswig  <joswig@lisp.de> wrote:
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| I would add that it would be fine if the editor could
| send expressions to a Lisp and get the results back.
+---------------

It might be nice [though I personally don't feel the lack],
and I've heard rumors that some versions of that have been
hacked into Vim [which I don't use], but do you really feel
that it's anywhere near as important as the three capabilities
I listed? It seems to me to be more like icing on the cake:
nice, and tasty [if you have a taste for that], but not as
fundamental as the others. YMMV.

Disclaimer: I'm using X Windows, so copy & paste from an
editor window to a REPL window is a mouse sweep and a click,
and having multiple windows open is not an issue.

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| > p.s. The above is *NOT* an anti-Emacs rant, but in instead a pro-Lisp
| > "Just do it!" rant.
| 
| Obviously it is a pro-Vi rant. ;-)
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No, it really was a pro-Lisp "Just do it!" rant. While I *personally*
happen to have trouble with Emacs and not with Vi, others may prefer
Emacs or Hemlock [thanks for the reminder! -- and me a CMUCL user, too!
(*blush*)] or ACL's or Lispworks's built-in IDE or some editor I don't
even know about on Windows or whatever...

What's important for newbies is to get past all the IDE hangups
and just code some Lisp that does something more than (+ 1 2),
whatever you have to use to do that. Icing and even cake can
come later.


-Rob

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