Subject: Re: What I want from my Common Lisp vendor and the Common Lisp community From: Erik Naggum <erik@naggum.net> Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 21:12:06 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <3208367526030969@naggum.net> * Robert STRANDH <strandh@labri.u-bordeaux.fr> > Hard to say. But I do know that when I switched from Scheme to Common > Lisp, things worked much better. The students are very sensitive to > credibility. Scheme is just not credible in the eyes of the students. I > got into eternal discussions about speed of implementations, the > necessity of adding your own object system, lack of required numeric > types, etc. When I listened to my own arguments, they did not sound > convincing. This is extraordinarily interesting! I expect serious professionals to see through the Scheme propaganda, but if students do it, it is great! There is perhaps enough material for a conformance paper on this, and if so, I would love to hear you speak about it. > The ones that "get" Lisp, and especially the ones that become passionate, > are the very best students. People who become passionate about C or C++ > are more the ones that have a need to be members of a club at the > exclusions of others, with no real technical reason why. This matches my own experience to a t. I thought I was alone, however. > This is all based on informal observation. And it is average behavior, > of course. Sometimes, that is all we have, but it is nonetheless interesting to hear. ///