Subject: Re: Promoting CL Was: What I want from my Common Lisp vendor and the Common Lisp community
From: Erik Naggum <erik@naggum.net>
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 14:25:02 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp
Message-ID: <3208515900839780@naggum.net>

* John Foderaro <jkf@unspamx.franz.com>
> He couldn't find a single one.

  Failure to do your bidding does not constitute admitting to whatever you
  want to invent about people.

  Disrespect for people smart enough to see through your charades runs deep
  in your personality, does it not?  You think are so much smarter than
  those you are trying to fool that you actually think you can get away
  with this crap, right?  Such arrogance simply amazes me.

> Eric has repeatedly shown that he will make up things and misrepresent
> people if it serves his ultimate purpose.

  I thought you would appreciate that, considering your own track record.
  Why is it wrong for me, but not wrong for you?  Several people here have
  arrested you for misrepresenting me.  None other than you sorry self have
  accused me of mispresenting you.  Maybe you should grow a clue from this?

> Thus I ask that Eric from now on always include references to any fact he
> states.  If you see him state a fact that you don't know on your own is
> true, assume it's a lie.  An no more paraphrasing of what someone said!
> Include their actual words from some posting or publication or don't
> speak for them at all.

  I am not sure what would constitute sufficiency in doing your bidding.
  Would you please explain how you arrived at "He couldn't find a single
  one" so I can see what kind of proof you require?  I would also like to
  see you find the actual references for the following statement:

> Your insistence that people knowledgeable about Common Lisp pretend that
> the langauge has no flaws means you want us to appear to be stupid or
> liars.

  I think I need to understand what your rather peculiar requirements are,
  because it sure looks like you demand from others what you cannot and
  have not been willing to do yourself.  Why is this ethical of you?  Why
  does this ridiculous hypocritical stance of yours make you a person that
  somebody should believe in any respect at all?  Have you not demonstrated
  that _you_ are a liar much more than you have demonstrated that I am?
  According to your _own_ standards, we should assume that everything you
  have said about me is a lie.  I think that is frighteningly accurate of
  you, but still it amazes me that you fail to understand the criticism you
  must have read here about _your_ misrepresenting me.  Oh, you probably
  need references to be able to deal with facts.  Dream on, hypocrite.

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