Subject: Re: moderation (was Re: Nagging Naggum) From: Erik Naggum <erik@naggum.net> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 13:18:33 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <3219398310191355@naggum.net> * kaz@accton.shaw.ca (Kaz Kylheku) | You don't need a parental figure to control your behavior. Why can't you | just *not* post in reaction, all by yourself? With all due respect, I think you are missing his point. The whole point that Jean-François Brouillet is making is that it is my fault that he and other lunatics like him have to post insane flames and expose themselves as deranged morons when they experience a serious failure to cope with the reality they live in. If these people were at all capable of being responsible for their own behavior to begin with, they would never have had the personality disorders they have. The desire to _attack_ someone because you have built up anger against them even though you have never been hurt directly is perhaps not insane in itself, but lacking the self- control to stop yourself from acting on it _is_. Since most people are well aware of just how insane it is to attack someone else unprovoked by anything they have actually done, those who really _are_ deranged will resort to "you made me do it", discarding every shred of mental stability in the process, as we see when they think people are "clones" of the enemy they have chosen to attack, and they are even so out of control that they attack innocent people and blame what somebody else have done to them for it. Just watch Jean-François Brouillet and how he makes all of his behavioral and personality problems _my_ fault. In his view, he is a puppet and I hold the strings. The fact that he is out of control is obvious to anyone, but I hold no strings. Instead of realizing just how insane it is to become so emotionally worked up about something you start to attack people and seeking help to get over his problems, he is the kind of person that goes from private insane rage to public insane attacks. Ever noticed how actual discussions heat up slowly, but how Jean-François Brouillet come out of nowhere screaming and with his gun blazing? Ever noticed how these insane attackers _always_ behave this way? They are _not_ party to the discussion, they never have a real argument to offer, and they enter with guns blazing. Nobody else do that: those that these insane attackers attack, spend a considerable amount of time trying to get the other party to understand what is at stake, because they usually want something constructive and are deeply frustrated by the other party, but these insane attackers have nothing to offer _anyone_ -- they are just out to attack their enemy for no reason other than their own personal insanity. They cannot be told to quit, either, because _they_ are not controlling their own behavior, their chosen enemy has all the fault for their raging insanity. There is in fact _nothing_ that this enemy can do, either -- if there were, these people would have suggested it _before_ becoming insanely enraged. One can understand that people who are in a fight may get worked up while defending themselves (but attacking innocent bystanders it indefensible). The sheer insanity of Jean-François Brouillet and his like cannot be explained with reference to normal people; suggestions that work on normal people do not work on them. You _have_ to refer people who react the way he and those like him do to the medical profession. Whether they were once "triggered" by something that happened outside of their own fantasy world or not is immaterial by the time they chose to attack and blame someone else for their behavior. This is simply not something people who have a healthy mental state do. In my view, when somebody has done what Jean-François Brouillet has done, they have proven to the whole world that they lack impulse control and thus are _dangerous_. Who can tell what will drive them to attack someone next? They came out of nowhere and they had become insanely enraged while watching something from afar. Being a public figure, which I guess I am, means that some things like Jean-François Brouillet this will seek me out, and he has also shown us his deep hatred for politicians, another prime target for the really insane nutjobs out there. If he keeps it up, I think there is ample reason to alert the local police of the powder-keg in their midst, who has already demonstrated that he blows up and is out of control. Now, let us have another display of the fireworks known as Jean-François Brouillet blowing up and being completely out of control. These folks are as predictable as time bombs and never figure out that they can just seize control over their irrational rage -- if they could, they would not have blown up to begin with, and such a personality trait is not cured by reasoning with them. /// --