Subject: Re: moderation (was Re: Nagging Naggum) From: Erik Naggum <erik@naggum.net> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:50:57 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Message-ID: <3219425454168693@naggum.net> * Jean-François Brouillet <ve...@mac.com> | I didn't expect Naggum to stay silent at all. I wished he would; see | the world of difference? Do you even remember how I responded to your insane outburst of uncontrolled rage? Shall I refresh your memory a little? What an _interesting_ display of personality problems. Get help, OK? Do you remember this? What was _your_ response? Do you need another memory refresh? It was a new thread with subject "Nagging Naggum" in which you proved that you are irrecovably _psychotic_. If you think you will recover honorably from this episode, rest assured that I have a rather long memory when it comes to asswipes like you. People who make mistakes or believe something too strongly but who fix them or get convinced of the rationality of the opposing view (without necessarily agreeing with it), I forgive and forget, and the same seems to be true of most other reasonably rational people. I think it is vitally important that past mistakes not be used against people who have made a reasonable effort to correct them. But those who stage massive attacks because they are enraged by what they do not understand, have already shown such an incredible lack of sound judgment that one must expect it to show up again at some point and nobody should trust such a person to grow a brain. People who think critically about the world they live in are full of surprises, but since most of the hypotheses we come up with on our own are wrong, just like you can extrapolate in any direction from a single data point, it is important to expose one's ideas to the world. What differentiates a rational and critical thinker from an irrational nutjob is that the thinker seeks and embraces counter-information -- stuff that can offer an alternative view or invalidate what one believes. Now, as it turns out, viewing information one receives this way causes a lot of waste of time because most of the people who have unusual information are nutjobs who have not exposed _their_ ideas to others for their critical comments or who have never sought any of the available counter-evidence or ignored all that which floated their way. The argument you usually hear from the nutjobs is that other people cannot deal with disagreement -- because that is what makes _them_ the most queasy, and which they think they cope with by trying not to disagree with others -- but the problem is that most people do not deal well with challenges to their _unstated_ beliefs. | The only (huge) mistake of Naggum is his language. And probably the fact | that he can't control his bile. On the contrary, you and things like Israel Ray Thomas cannot control your bile. I do control my bile very much, thank you. Dealing with psychos like you requires intimate control over my own reactions. The fact that I am measured and precise in how I exact my retribution is what drives _you_ wild, is it not? The fact that I am _right_ about you is what makes you erupt in even more flames. I think the only proper reaction to an insane nutjob like yourself is to push you to and optionally over the brink. There is a word for this: brinkmanship. Take a look at how you erupted here. _That_ is evidence of your not even being _able_ to control you bile. | Write me a private email if you wish, but it is not my desire to add any | more noise than strictly necessary to this NG. You are still mistaken in what you believe in necessary. /// --