From: Erik Naggum

Subject: Re: Linux version of ACL, 4.3 problems

Date: 1998-4-10 9:46

* Roy M. Turner
| This seems to be the case in ACL 4.3 for Unix, too.  This is all I see
| about subseq in CLtL2 (the on-line version, that is ...)

  it's better to refer to the actual standard, kindly provided to the Net
  by Harlequin and Kent Pitman: http://www.harlequin.com/books/HyperSpec/
  in particular, SUBSEQ is at

  http://www.harlequin.com/education/books/HyperSpec/Body/acc_subseq.html

  (I have written an Emacs package that accesses symbols directly from the
  HyperSpec.  http://sourcery.naggum.no/emacs/hyperspec.el  unfortunately,
  it uses Emacs 20 features and I have not back-ported it to Emacs 19.34.
  you can get the Emacs 20 version of browse-url.el from me, as well:
  http://sourcery.naggum.no/emacs/20.X/lisp/browse-url.el, which compiles
  after you have loaded this:

(defmacro defgroup (&rest ignore) ())
(defmacro defcustom (sym val doc &rest ignore) `(defvar ,sym ,val ,doc))

  Emacs 20.3 should be out soon and it solves most of the problems with
  Emacs 20.2, which gave people a good reason not to upgrade.)

| Does ACL 4.3 Unix/Linux implement all the X3J13 suggestions?

  far from it.  if you haven't already, go through Appendix A of the User
  Guide to find an outdated list of known problems, including what must
  have been decisions _not_ to implement an X3J13 vote.  I appreciate this
  list very highly, but I wish it were updated -- lots of the items have
  actually been fixed!  however, I wish Franz Inc would take conformance
  more seriously.  apparently, it's not what their customers want.

| Strange -- ACL 4.3 on Unix knows about it...

  check again.  but ACL 4.3.1 with patch 0306 installed does...

| I wish that we *could* buy the full product for Linux.  Maybe if enough of us
| use the free version and request a (commercial) full version be made
| available...

  well, you _can_ buy the support deal for Linux.  it's a lot cheaper than
  the full license fee the first year if you remain within the 25 hours of
  support that you buy, but it costs the same next year, too.  a client of
  mine is going to purchase one or more such support agreements until we
  (hopefully) can purchase the real thing somewhere down the line.  not
  only does purchasing a support contact land you support and fixes, maybe
  also "new features" from the standard, but you show good support for the
  decision to make ACL available to the Linux world.

#:Erik